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The Ultimate South Shiverpeak Runner,The Frosty Snowman

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The Ultimate South Shiverpeak runner,The Frosty Snowman.

I know most of you runners think that no matter what,warriors are just plain better runners than rangers.Well, for this occasion,you are dead wrong. I just did some testing with a guildie named iciris vandela and we just found this great build. We call it the "Frosty Snowman". This build works for running to CopperHammer Mines from Iron Mines. It works for running to Marhan's Grotto from Thunderhead Keep and from Iron Mines. It works for running to deldrimor warcamp from camp rankor. It works for running to The Granite Citadel from Deldrimor Warcamp.Here is the build.

ARMOR
you need FULL 15k frostbound armor from granite citadel. You need a major/sup vigor. You need need a minor rune of marksmanship,minor exportise too. your health with major vigor should be 521 with no weapon and 530 with no weapon.
SKILLS
dodge
storm chaser
holy vail
mending
melandru's resiliance(elite)
troll unguent
dryders defence
whirling defence

I use Frostbound armor because there are so many annoying ice imps and ice golems!they always slow you down then let the mesmers kill you,which with this armor wont happen.frost bound has 115 armor per peice against any ice attack or elemental attack.


im not going to explain a strategy because there is none. Once you are presented with the skills you should be smart enough to figure out how to use them......i did.

~~Len~~

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  Feanaro Anwarun on 01/30/06 14:53

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you need FULL 15k frostbound armor from granite citadel.

ehm frostbound droks armor is just as good.

  Rogue on 01/30/06 15:05

yeah... and for that matter i'm not rich enough to get 15k armor =P

  SirShaitan on 01/30/06 15:05

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Once you are presented with the skills you should be smart enough to figure out how to use them......i did.


Another guide that isn't a guide, amazing.
To bad you can't give negative credit for submitted guides.

They should at least meet the criteria of the heading.



  One Swordsman on 01/30/06 15:36

Sir Shaitain:

Again how can you be so nasty, someone has taken the time to sit and write a build, at least say something positive then put some points where the person should improve man.

Good Work lenway, thanks for posting your guide, i've only played Ranger in PvP but i plan to make a PvE one soon, when i do i'll give it a try as it looks interesting. However dont always assume that people know what theyre doing lol, you should have put a method/stategy, but good work =)

  fallen_disciple on 01/30/06 15:40

i thought the guide was pretty good...im not much of a runner, but most of my friends are, so i might pass this guide their way. as people have mentioned, i would include some method in here as well, but i wont be nasty like shaitain...good work

  Tor Den Mektige on 01/30/06 15:47

yea, I have to agree with them here, #1 do some research and put some time into it. you dont need 15k armor, you can use Droks as well. #2 A guide gives you intriquite details about the build and why it is the way it is so that people understand it (thats why its called a guide). #3 Where is your attribute listing? Any guide for a build should include attribute listing for people with and without the 30 extra attribute points.

If you want to write a guide, write it seriously, and not half-heartedly. It honestly looks like you just spent 2 min to write this so that u can get the 50 cred or w/e it is u get for guides.

on a positive side though. Looking at the skill selection, it looks very effective! if I had a ranger I would try it out! I might modify it for my Warrior though :)

thank you for the effort, it is much appreciated even though the negative feedback. Just please keep that in mind next time :)

  Julia Heartilly on 01/30/06 16:01

"Well, for this occasion,you are dead wrong.", I certainly cannot agree with this as it reverses what you state before about people thinking warriors are plain better.
With this you imply for running in the Southern Shiverpeaks the ranger is just plain better than the warrior... this is an assumption I think you made premeturely after finding your build.

No doubt it will be good but don't rule out the possibility of another build (warrior build in this case) being even better because you should know that most people never actually get to see the full potential of a runner character because there are tons of inexperienced runners around.

  SirShaitan on 01/30/06 18:36

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Sir Shaitain:

Again how can you be so nasty, someone has taken the time to sit and write a build, at least say something positive then put some points where the person should improve man.


LOL
You still don't understand. A guide isn't a list of skills. I can give you 40 differnet skill sets for different chars for different occasions , but they don't mean anything if you don't explain them to the people wanting to read your guide. A non explained guide on the most part is useless to most people.


  AonBrushwind on 01/30/06 20:11

Sir's got a point. IMHO, you're all just trolling Sir.

  RuckFule on 01/30/06 21:00
 
dude this is retarded y do u need a minor rune of markmanship?

  Barbarian210 on 01/30/06 22:05
 
you do know that the only difference between droks, 15k granite, and 100k FoW armor is looks right? so for the poor you only need 1.5k droks and how is this a guide???you don't even explain how to use the skills and when

  Phydeaux on 01/31/06 03:21
 
Uhm... not a guide. This is a build. Second, A warrior with a 16 shield, +4 hilt, and plate / dragon armor has 105 ele defense and 115 physical. The avicara do physical damage, the only nasty elemental damage on the copperhammer run is the frozen burst, which only does 30 damage. The nasty stuff is the sword attacks from the Avicara, which do 25-40. Plus, you can get absorb runes on a war build. Along with endure pain.

  cswella on 01/31/06 08:46

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slow you down then let the mesmers kill you,which with this armor wont happen


How would Frostbound armor protect you from being slowed down?

PS  cswella on 01/31/06 08:49

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Uhm... not a guide. This is a build


If some of you guys would go to the actual list of guides, you would see that this guide's catergory is listed under 'Builds'. Therefore, this is a build guide.

  BrianFellow on 01/31/06 09:36

It's a build guide alright but its kind of incomplete. Since it missing the part of explaining "Ultimate South Shiverpeak Runner"

  Headless on 01/31/06 10:39
 
I don't think it is meant as a guide or it would be titled "The Ultimate South Shiverpeak Runner GUIDE,The Frosty Snowman. I don't think that lenway intended to explain everything about running. I think is intentions where to simply share some information that he knows and some may not. Just accept the fact there are people that don't have the time or energy to do a lengthy post about information that would be rather redundant anyway. There are plenty of GUIDES about running just use some common sense and apply what you already know to his idea's, it's a pretty easy concept really. I guess some people need to be given everything, they can't think for themselves.

SirShaitan I just don't know what to say man. I see you degrading all these builds and yet you give no feedback on what they can do to make them better for the next time they make a post. If you want more detail explain don't complain. How are they to "please" you if they don't know what you want?. I am sure others feel the same way you do. I even understand your point of view, the build is rather genaric. However it would save you some time if you just made one positive post about how you think it should be done instead of a negative post on every single build on the site. Gosh that's got to get boring....

  Rogue on 01/31/06 14:11

Is it really though? this is a ranger running build, there arn't very many out there. and i don't think any of them use melandrus resiliance instead of escape.

this guide could have at least followed the guidlines of a good guide - which are posted in the "read first" section before submitting a guide.

  evo_nc on 01/31/06 15:46

actually melandrus resilience is a good spell. i used it with my w/r when i ran. gives u stacks of nrg regen and health regen. if u want to go more running spells then i suggest escape but if u can do it without escape thats good.

  lenway on 01/31/06 17:39

holy crap,i got no good comments on this,well the guide works fine.you are a complete idiot if u cant get those skills to work for you.lol this isnt much of a running build?really?tell me what else it is for then.

  lenway on 01/31/06 17:43

why the hell would i explain a strategy when this is a build?

  lenway on 01/31/06 17:43

why the hell would i explain a strategy when this is a build?

Hey, no offense  cswella on 01/31/06 19:03

Lenway, I apologize if I offended you in any way. I do recognize that this guide is a running build, and that it is a good idea. But I think the main problem is that you explain it assuming that everyone is an experienced runner. Not everyone is as experienced as you are.

When I write a guide, I read it over 3-4 times, to ensure that there are no errors within it. There were some errors in your guide that opened yourself up to harrassment and flaming. But that is their problem, not yours. I'd suggest the next time you write a guide, you do it carefully and make sure that you include anything that could be useful. The more info you provide, the more respect you will get.

  lenway on 01/31/06 20:49

it was really me being lazy.im only 12 years old.its my bad,i know that i didnt give a strategy but that was my own greed.this is the worst guide i have written.but someone told me that the point of recieving negative replies is to learn from my mistakes,and here i have.this guide was written with no time on my part,sorry everyone for being lazy.

  Rogue on 02/01/06 00:27

"why the hell would i explain a strategy when this is a build?"

because what good is a build without knowing what to do with it?

example:

guy1 hands guy2 a piece of steel wool and some scissors
guy1 tells guy2 that he should "use these things together"
guy2 cuts the steel wool into 3 pieces

the catch? guy2 didn't know that he should have used the steel wool to clean the rust off of the scissors instead of cutting the wool into something else.

an item (in this case a build) without knowledge is useless (it's sole use is having a good time, although that mostly applys to paperclips and rubberbands)

a good guide about a build will have
A: the build
B: the attributes
C: the stratagy
D: the times when this build is usefull
E: why this build is better than other builds out there

it's actualy hard to write a good guide IMO.

  chuiu on 02/01/06 06:08
 
How the hell are these crappy guides getting by anyway? Isnt there a moderator or staff member or something that is screening these?

  BrianFellow on 02/01/06 09:00

so I can use this to run to every place in Southern Shiverpeak or what? Like from Ice Caves of Sorrow to Copperhead Mines?

You have to elaborate further or else I can just SS my skillbar for a warrior and say this is damage dealing warrior build that does damage. With no attributes listed just put 12 points into inspiration for no reason at all!

  Ryolan Levi on 02/01/06 11:23
 
it looks like a nice build, but it deffinately is not the best-uber-leet southern shiverpeaks runner. As soon as you encounter any knockdown, you're toasted. Which I find my biggest problem when running southern shiverpeaks.

  frogy1752 on 02/01/06 16:11

SirShaitan:
Please calm down - you make this whole guide a giant flame

I said guide because this is a guide even if it has some errors...
A guide is a explaination on how to do a certain thing... get definition?
This guide gives you Armor to get - for a reason - even though 15k isn't needed - This guide also gives a skillset and runes - I see you flame all over these guides "because their not guides", even though a guide wouldn't even need to have a skillset. This guide explains that you have to use your brain - if you need a definition for that, please don't post anymore - to figure out what you need to do, anyways it's self explanitiory just by the names of the Skills. Run with dodge+storm chaser and protect with Whirling Defense and Dryder's Defence - heal with mending+troll urgent - hex shatter with veil.

  wolfs_reign on 02/01/06 18:13

if you can afford 15k armor i wont resort to words such as *noob*, *n00b*, etc. But it seems to me that you are not informed well when it comes to armor. Why would you HAVE to have 15k frost when droknars furlined is the exact same stats at about 1/10 the price of 15k. You should know by now that the only difference from 15k and droknars armor is LOOKS.... Also. this is not a guide. guides are meant to actually GUIDE someone. this is you slapping this *would-be* R/Mo build onto a Guild submittion. For one. YOU DONT USE STORM CHASER WHEN YOUR RUNNING! that should be replaced by Evade. melandrus should be replaced by escape. ur not a runner if you dont even have escape.

  Julia Heartilly on 02/02/06 05:45

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For one. YOU DONT USE STORM CHASER WHEN YOUR RUNNING! that should be replaced by Evade. melandrus should be replaced by escape. ur not a runner if you dont even have escape.


This doesn't make any sense at all, Storm Chaser can be absolutely great in specific builds/situations as you can put it to by running past enemies that deal very little damage through their attacks however do charge your energy that way.

Also Escape is far from neccessary, it all depends on the rest of your build.

  Charlotte The Harlot on 02/04/06 20:48

hey i tested your build and it works great actually but i would suggest redoing the guide to make it better for people who dont exactly know what there doing but good build

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