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W/Mo Mountain Troll and Griffon farming (fast)

12/01/2005

Author: TheGDsaint

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55 Comments

Ok, Basically this is a farming guide to Griffons and Mountain Trolls, This build makes it much, much easier to farm, I recently found out about the mountain troll cave just outside of Droks, I really felt stupid and i wanted to kill them. So i thought of a skill set that would keep me alive and do great damage without using smite, Here it is.

Starting off with armour and Weapons...

Armour:
Gladiatours Haubrek Of Major Absorption(reduces damage)
Gladiators Leggings of Major vigor(adds health)
Super would be better but i dont have enough money.
Gladiators Boots of Minor Tactics
Gladiators Gauntlets of Minor Axe Mastery
Ascalon Helm

This Armour adds a good amount of energy (7 alltogether)
It may not seem like alot but it really does help.

Weapons:

All You need is an Axe with an OK sundering and fortitude mod
And a Shield With Health while enchanted.

ATTRIBUTES:
Healing:10
Axe:11
Tactics:12
If you have any leftover just put on strength for armour penetration

Skills Set...

Cyclone Axe
Bonnetis Defence
Gladiators Defence
Vigorus spirit
Healing Breeze
Live Vicariously
Mending
Sprint

Cyclone Axe:
Perform a spinning axe attack striking for +4-10 damage to all adjacent opponents.

Bonnetis Defence:
For 5-10 seconds, you have a 75% chance to block incoming melee attacks and arrows. You gain 5 energy for each successful melee attack blocked. Bonetti's Defense ends if you use a skill.

Gladiators Defence:
For 5-11 seconds, you have 75% chance to block incoming attacks. Whenever you block a melee attack this way, the attacker suffers 5-35 damage.

Vigorus Spirit:
For 30 seconds, each time target ally attacks or casts a spell, that ally is healed for 1-11 health.

Healing Breeze:
For 10 seconds, target ally gains health regeneration of 3-8.

Live Vicariously:
While you maintain this enchantment, whenever target ally hits a foe, you gain 1-11 health. In addition to the initial energy cost, you also lose 1 point of energy regeneration while the enchantment is in effect.

Mending:
While you maintain this enchantment, target ally gains health regeneration of +1-3.

Sprint:
For 8-13 seconds, you move 25% faster.

GAME TIME...

Put Mending on, Wait for energy to recharge, put live vicariously on....
Right when you get out of droks run SouthWest, the trail leads right into the cave, Use sprint to get past the avicara, Lure the mountain trolls to the back of the cave and aggro one or both of the bosses to get more Trolls, When the group up on you Use Gladiators defence, followed by Vigorus spirit...
Use Cyclone Axe to keep you health up till Glads defence ends...
When it does end Put Bonnetis defence on right away
Followed by cyclone axe
Bonettis
Cyclone Axe
Bonnetis
Cyclone Axe
Repeat this until Glads Defence recharges
Then do it all over again...

For any Questions Just Whisper me In- Game ill show You what you need to do.

Good luck.

Wow... This took me a while to write XD

To view an excellent video of the farming procedure, using nearly the same technique, by Schwiemer please go here. Both pieces of work are complimentary to each other and together form the ultimate Troll Farming Course.

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User Comments

The True Myth on 12/01/05 12:48

It doesnt seem to be smart to use Vigourous straight after Gladiators, since it end sif you use a skill..

solgae1784 on 12/01/05 13:29

Gladiator's defense does not end if you use a skill, which makes it a worthy elite skill to have while farming.

Bonetti's defense ends if you use a skill though.

I used Glad defense way before the AI update, and it's still one of the best skill for warrior to use for farming griffons and trolls.

TheGDsaint on 12/01/05 15:12

Excactly right, glads defence is a very, very useful skill...

And AI dosent run, unlike smite.

Glads=Pwnage

Something you didn't write down that might be helpful to everyone else...

navymrgoodbar on 12/01/05 17:07

{{I'm not trying to put you down in any way, TheGDsaint. I'm only trying to help out with your post by elaborating on your work.}}

1. You DON'T need 8 skills to make this work.
- I use the EXACT same skills you have EXCEPT Sprint.

2. You DON'T need gladiator's armor.
- I only have +50 armor per piece using Ascalon (from Ascalon) armor.

3. You DON'T need to finish the 15 attribute quests to farm with these skills.
- I haven't completed one single attribute quest and am PAWNING griffons/trolls.

***It's all about the timing.***
- As soon as you have Live Vicariously & Vigorous Spirit on, one Cyclone Axe will heal you all the way if there is enough enemies around you. Right after you use Cyclone Axe, trigger Bonetti's Defense and wait for Cyclone Axe to recharge. As soon as it recharges cast Healing Breeze & IMEDIATELY follow up with another Cyclone Axe. As soon as Gladiator's Defense is up use it and recast Vigorous Spirit and do whatever else you need to stay alive. Rinse & repeat! ^_^

My 2 cents,
navymrgoodbar

P.S. You really do NEED armor. I tried to farm w/o the use of armor to see if it was only skills that made you survive, not armor. Turns out that 25% dmg that leaks through in Bonetti's Defense is strong enough to hurt you badly. :S (Don't farm nude. ;) )

One last note...

navymrgoodbar on 12/01/05 17:10

Oh ya, forgot to say before.

No, this skill set is NOT fast, TheGDsaint. Please don't tell ppl that it is, cause it isn't. It's slow, BUT it still gets the job done. (Man I hate that new AOE/enemyrunaway update.) I miss being able to use smiting skills w/o them running away. :*(

Schwiemer on 12/01/05 18:59

i created a farming video to the threshold (troll cave outside of droks) the smiting still works it just takes supreme timing, they run away but some of them are jammedagainst each other :-) you should see my video in the video section "The Farmers Guide to the Threshold"

TheGDsaint on 12/01/05 20:37

yea i saw that, and i know all that navymrgoodbar but it is fast now that they run from the aoe/smite skills, It may not be "superquick" but i can take out 20 trolls in about 90 seconds so i think its pretty quick. And the 15 Attribute quests help, They are not required. same with armour, IT JUST HELPS, this guide is to help other platers not TELL them what to do. And sprint is to get by the avicara and monsters before the cave, so thanks anyway.

TheGDsaint on 12/01/05 20:42

Oh and the Gladiators armour is an Energy boost IT HELPS.

And dont forget Glads defence

Right when you activate it , you go right to vigorus spirit, THEN cyclone, Then Bonnetis(repeat cyclone and bonnetis till Glads recharges)(keep repeating)you dont really enen need breeze its just when u sprint past the avicara, helps regen.

mwpeck on 12/01/05 22:01

Gah, thanks for getting this patched(most likely in their next patch).

As for armor, i wear knight and plate, no need for extra energy, I have 20 and i can do just fine, glad + 3 cyclones (by the time glad runs out), and that leaves me at 0 energy, bonetti's and its recharged instantly.

i HIGHLY suggest casting cyclone axe after bonneti's (instead of healing breeze, or vigorous spirit), i have noticed that casting cyclone after bonetti's instead of after one of the others makes it uninteruptable.....i have done hours of runs, at least 100+ with this same build, and using bonetti's and cyclone the way i do, they have NEVER interrupted it, but if they do, then your as good as dead.

And i rarely use breeze......not even for the avicara......i can walk past them till they are at the end of my aggro, then sprint and get them off me with only loosing about 1/4 of my health, cause i use dmg reduce armor, and not the energy armor. only time i have ever used healing breeze, is when i got bored of hitting the same skills over and over. Its one of those skills that are not esscential, but if you get bored, u might wanna take it along.

Oh well........my friend and I still have another build that works, takes about 20 seconds longer but it still kills them, and its a lot safer, they can interrupt a cyclone, and you can live through the longer recharge, with more then 1/2 ur life left.

Interupt

TheGDsaint on 12/02/05 07:16

breeze helps if you get interupted too, thats mainly why i have it

Schwiemer on 12/02/05 15:39

i have mastered taking them out in 58 seconds once i begin the assault...now that they run away my health regens and my skills recharge when they come back...

Tor Den Mektige on 12/02/05 16:15

you dont need healing breeze or sprint .. instead I use two other smiting skills that do damage :D I might make my build public in a bit, still trying to perfect it though. (make it more efficient)

BuddyLeeX on 12/03/05 00:14

I was able to manage with my desert griffon build and I took on the entire cave, which that spawn was around 15-20 trolls at one time with no problems

flourishing

The Fat Cow on 12/03/05 15:21

i tried many builds and wanted to see if any other skills would go along. Try putting in flourish because it can refresh every skill you hve and gain 7 energy for it. Use the mending, live vicariously, vigorous sprit and then run for it. get as many griffons and other enemies. Get around 30 and kill them. Use glad defence and cyclone. After cyclone use florish and rite b4 glad finishes, you flowrish again and keep doing this. This worked realli well with my W/Mo and it could even be better way to farm griffons and trolls.

Schwiemer on 12/03/05 15:49

glad defense and flourish are elite skills, you can't have more then 2 of them in your skill bar

interrupt

mwpeck on 12/04/05 17:05

I dont have a problem with interrupt..........the only time they have interrupted my cyc, is when i try squeezing one it as glad ends, but i had bonetti's charged from the other 2 cyc's, so i used bonetti's, while normally attacking a troll....but the time bonetti's ends, i have enough adren to cast it again, did that till glad came back, it coulda been luck though, cause they barely touched me that time. The reason i use sprint, is to get by avicara and trolls that are standing between droks and the cave.

The_Lost_Guardian on 12/05/05 09:11

Well, I would recommend essence bond instead of mending, the health u get in exchange for mending is loads more.

The_Lost_Guardian on 12/05/05 09:44

oops sry,think I did a wrong sequence, bonneti's defense is good enuf.

Schwiemer on 12/05/05 17:17

http://s13.invisionfree.com/Terran_Armada/...hp?showtopic=37
that is the guide i used in my farming video, since i can't post it here

Please stop

TheGDsaint on 12/07/05 16:40

Your video is alrady there, just get off it ok, its not your build.

Schwiemer on 12/07/05 18:21

That particular build is MINE, I'm holding all my builds from posting here. If you want one of my builds you either PM me and ask nicely or wait untill like 3 months after I come up with it

Not YOUR build

Aenur on 12/09/05 09:47

Thats not YOUR build Schwiemer he wrote it himself so it's his build.

mwpeck on 12/09/05 10:24

just because he posted the build doesnt make it his, i've been using this build since a few weeks before he posted it. He posted it at the beginning of this month, my friend and i have been using it since we started playing again back in november, wouldnt that make it my build? The only reason its "his" build, is because he was the first to post it. Its ok though, i'm farmin trolls twice as fast with my 55 monk, and no, dont ask me for the build.

Aenur on 12/09/05 18:49

whats your build?

Schwiemer on 12/10/05 00:43

it is my build Aenur, and since you are obviously new here...you wouldn't understand, he wrote this build and changed "MINOR" things in it from my build.

My build is known as the Threshold and I am now holding all my guides from submitting here for 3 months at the most, so look up my guide in the next three months

Hmm... This is familiar.

Harrow The Pious on 12/10/05 13:46

Technically one person cannot own a build. Me and Mwpeck have been using this build a couple weeks before it was posted. I didnt post it because most likly its gonna be nerfed now. But my point is that no one can own a build because so many people have tried the same things.

Btw i will be releasing my 55 monk build for farming UW, Trolls, Griffons. Yes all in one build.

Aenur on 12/10/05 16:34

Maybe if little kids would look at the big picture... Maybe if they thought that, hey im not the only one who plays this game! Just maybe theres more then one person that thought of the same good build as you. And hey, maybe that person decided to post a guide.

Schwiemer on 12/10/05 16:50

Harrow, I know for a fact that the build I made (the unchanged one where he got this one from) was made by me and is my build. I saw no one else farming like this during the beginning, I am still holding my guides if people are going to abuse them

Listen

Harrow The Pious on 12/10/05 22:53

Listen im not about to get into a flame war because you got ur knickers in a bunch because someone realized something later than everyone else and wrote a guide on it. This guide was from me GUENUINLY. No knock offs no nothing. Do I complain? No. Its a game. ppl do the same things. Now grow up.

hypocrite

Aenur on 12/11/05 00:37

"Listen im not about to get into a flame war...This guide was from me GUENUINLY" That is the most hypocrite thing to have been said.

There is no way that one build is anyones build. There are tens of thousands of people playing this game. And with tens of thousands of people playing this game there is bound to be more then 1 person at any given time thinking of a new build. (ok maybe not any given time, but a lot of the time people are trying new builds)

So, i guess what im getting at is how can u say that this build is yours? did you copyright it? No. Did you think of it first? I highly doubt it.

So stop saying that he is stealing your build. While all he is doing is helping other people out by writing a guide on a good build for farming.

Schwiemer on 12/11/05 14:14

QUOTE

Listen im not about to get into a flame war because you got ur knickers in a bunch because someone realized something later than everyone else and wrote a guide on it. This guide was from me GUENUINLY. No knock offs no nothing. Do I complain? No. Its a game. ppl do the same things. Now grow up.

This type of guide was originally posted by me on the warrior nation network 7 months ago, I then moved the farming video to game amp. This guide was originally made by WNxWhiteCoats. Do not commit plaigarism.

Schwiemer on 12/11/05 14:15

QUOTE

So, i guess what im getting at is how can u say that this build is yours? did you copyright it? No. Did you think of it first? I highly doubt it.

Look at the video, it states clearly on the bottom "Copyright by Schwiemer". I think I've won my case.

Aenur on 12/11/05 23:17

Did it ever occur to you that he never saw this Video b4 he made this guide? or maybe he was using this guide even b4 your video came out.

(btw this is off topic, but that was a nice quality vid :P)

And you have not won your case yet, far from it. Just cause you copyrighted your video, doesnt mean the build is yours.

You cannot copyright a build. That would be like copyrighting a word, or a saying.

Any ways what im trying to get at is, No1 can say a build is thiers because its a game. And because there are so many people playing that game, probly half of them dont even know this site exists.

Oh and one more thing. What makes you think your builds are so great Schwiemer? Do you think holding your builds for 3 months is goign to affect any1? I laugh at that.

Not a hypocrit

Harrow The Pious on 12/13/05 14:54

"Listen im not about to get into a flame war...This guide was from me GUENUINLY" That is the most hypocrite thing to have been said."

What i meant by that was i discovered that tatic on my own. Didnt look at a guide, didnt take any advice. It was just me and the prima skillz list. Thats what i meant by guenuine. Greets and cut the hostility.

Aenur on 12/13/05 20:02

AHA! see that is what im getting at. See Schwiemer, Harrow didnt use your build at all. He thought it up on his own.

This brings me to my argument. How can you Schwiemer think that this one build is yours only, and that only you thought of it and no1 else?

Anyways sorry for the hostillity Harrow :P

Harrow The Pious on 12/13/05 22:29

Its all good. ^^

doublehelix on 12/20/05 09:59

@Schwiemer
News flash: Putting a "Copyright" notice on something means nothing if you have no actual copyright on it, and you are an idiot if you think that you were the first to come up with this type of build.

I was using a Cyclone/Bonetti's/Glad's Defense/Vigorous Spirit/Live Vicariously/Mending build long before you posted any of your "same old" crap. No, I did not need anyone to spoon feed it to me, no I did not need to steal anyone else's ideas. You know what? I also don't claim any ownership of my build. I posted the build that I used to use, and the last comment in it was my edit for the post-AoE AI update for those who don't like using smiting because of it.

I've seen all of your "Threshold" videos, and read all of your comments, and I have gained an appreciation for the simple idiots that don't try to make themselves big $#!+. You are egocentric and self-centered. Try coming up with something original and you will earn respect.

I have more respect for people like TheGDsaint and Harrow The Pious here, who put the knowledge out there for others knowing that they were not likely the first to come up with it but wanted to share with those who may not yet know, than people like you that have no understanding that they are not the center of the universe. The thing that I found pathetic was that the majority of your videos are from before the updates, and you posted them after. Congratulations on a lack of originality.

erezsolan on 12/26/05 06:04

I've ran this build many times now and found it to be much much faster with 2 sup runes (axe and tactics), when both charged up to 15, although health goes down to 380, the whole process is as stable and much faster due to 35 glad's damage and 30 avg cyclone sweep.

A couple of runs have returned the investment already, naturally.

just my 2 cents.

erezsolan on 12/26/05 06:07

oh, and another small thing, since i refrain from customizing my razorstone, i've purchased the droks collector's axe (15^while ench), put on it 19% axe mastery grip and customized it - that gives me the 30 damage per troll per sweep.

Griffons just drop down even faster.

Sarge117 on 12/27/05 07:49

is there some way of doing this with-out an axe?

Sarge117 on 12/27/05 12:08

omg this works brillantly

i borrowed an axe from my guild to try it and it worked great!

good job

Punisher Zero on 12/30/05 12:47

u dont even need half of those skills.. i do this all the time with my warrior and i dont use glads def.. vig spirit..heal breeze.. or sprint.. tehre not needed.. all u need is mending, live Vicariously.. cyclone axe, and bonetti's def.. no other skills are needed... just aggro every group and then use cyclone and hit bonetti's and just repeat... very very quick and the easiest way to do this.. no need for other skills...
11 heal
everthing else goes in axe mastery
(i use the collectors axe from the weapons crafter ni droks forge.. best axe for this) and u dont need the 15point quests either
LOL

TheGDsaint on 01/07/06 20:46

why not use vigorus spirit...
or glads

it probably takes you 4 miniutes to kill them

Wulfbane on 01/12/06 10:54

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for sharing the build, it has really helped.

U F E A R M E on 01/15/06 06:29

Where are the griffons

this is awesome

Barbarian210 on 01/31/06 23:42

this is excellent i borrowed axe from guildee and it works awesome!only thing that i had trouble with was capping glads defense