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User Comments
  zeramoth on 09/22/07 11:48

nice guide, i will sure try this out:d

  Slayman on 09/22/07 13:08

The guide is very well done, and I love that torment shield!

  Survivingsin on 09/22/07 15:13

the dps looks good, bash is a nice utility skill, i just dont know about the elite, seems like it could be replaced with another attack elite to add in more dps or a possible daze, overall it looks pretty good.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/22/07 15:30

thanks for all your comments :d

i did try using a spear attack elite (i cant remember what its called, i believe its the only spear attack elite, or am i wrong?) (i would search what its called but my browser is being annoying and is being rly slow xd) and i found using defy pain just made it a lot easier to survive, the added armor buff just gives you that survival edge.

although i may try playing around some more, feel free to post anymore suggestions if you try it out some more too :)

thanks again all :)

  Fat_Smurf on 09/22/07 16:24

defy pain isn't really useful

and why u use sup absorbtion? no need and knigh insigna is useless too i would go energy or hp try to get over 600 hp and use sup vigor, and minor for other stuff.

i like the idea, might test it

  Brock The Rock on 09/22/07 22:00

why not just use a sword or axe youll have better dps with one of those. barbed spear is a waste of a skill on this bar btw and if your gonna be a midline with 96-116 armor you wont need defy pain.

  lord_gkar on 09/23/07 00:15

interesting approach i too have a spear warrior not same built but she does pretty well

  Deathaxe on 09/23/07 03:15

it is a good build, but i am not sure about defy pain. i always use "coward!" or "you're all alone!", which can be very helpful. yaa is good for massive conditions, cripple prevents them to flee, and weakness lowers their skill's power.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/23/07 04:00

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and why u use sup absorbtion? no need and knigh insigna is useless too i would go energy or hp try to get over 600 hp and use sup vigor, and minor for other stuff.


i have my runes set out like this because it works well for axe, sword and spear. meaning i can just stick to one of my armor sets rather than having to change between my sets wen i go from axe to sword or spear. i did say these are just my personal preferences :)




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why not just use a sword or axe youll have better dps with one of those. barbed spear is a waste of a skill on this bar btw and if your gonna be a midline with 96-116 armor you wont need defy pain.


why not just not post comments like that, its a spear build thats the whole point of it it means you can attack from range, and how the hell is barbed a waste of a skill? bleeding is always nice to have.

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it is a good build, but i am not sure about defy pain. i always use "coward!" or "you're all alone!", which can be very helpful. yaa is good for massive conditions, cripple prevents them to flee, and weakness lowers their skill's power.


"you're all alone!" could be a very good replacement for defy pain, as i said im going to be testing out other elites with it, i just prefered defy pain when i made it :)


  The Quick One on 09/23/07 08:49

very nice guide. will be trying it out in the next few days.

  Hydras First on 09/23/07 10:15

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why not just use a sword or axe youll have better dps with one of those. barbed spear is a waste of a skill on this bar btw and if your gonna be a midline with 96-116 armor you wont need defy pain.

why not just not post comments like that, its a spear build thats the whole point of it it means you can attack from range, and how the hell is barbed a waste of a skill? bleeding is always nice to have.


He gotcha there Brock ;)

But yeah, as others has stated Defy Pain probably isnt bringing the build it its maximum level. Maybe use "Coward!" or even Rage of the Ntouka.

Oh and there are some misspellings, so on your next guide you might wanna fix that :P

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/23/07 10:19

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oh and there are some misspellings, so on your next guide you might wanna fix that :p


ah i didnt see the typos xd i made this using paint shop pro as an image rather then a piece of text in word, meaning editing the text parts was slightly harder :) but next time ill be more carefull lol

thanks for your comments.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/23/07 13:51

ive been messing around with this all afternoon and have found that "your all alone!" is a very good replacement for defy pain when it comes to ab, i have also been trying replacing shield bash with tiger stance aswell as using "your all alone!" for higher dps and also have tried watch yourself in place of sheild bash to give an extra armor buff when not using defy pain versoin, both these modifications seem to work. :)

  Brock The Rock on 09/23/07 19:40

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why not just not post comments like that, its a spear build thats the whole point of it it means you can attack from range, and how the hell is barbed a waste of a skill? bleeding is always nice to have.


I post comments like that to point out whats wrong with a build so it can be improved not just to be a dick although that is one of the reasons. The point of attacking from a range is what? not having to worry about ward melee? With melee you will deal more damage and control the field better. Barbed is bad because all it does is give bleading at the cost of 4 adren and a skill slot bleeding isnt good unless its being used for something ie gash or in a pressure where you want a second ranger but one already has poison. In your build its a waste, a more useful attack skill would be better. The ranged thing provides its advantages in arena play like that to an extent but i was just stating that a melee build would probably be better while still achieving the same goal.

  Brock The Rock on 09/23/07 19:41

meant to say 3 adren for barbed had a typo

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 00:40

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I post comments like that to point out whats wrong with a build so it can be improved


Ok so in your opinion using a sword ore axe will be better with higher dps, but how is that trying to help improve the build, using an axe or sword isnt going to improve a spear build its just basicly saying its a waste of time.

Im just trying to create something different thats fun to play with, rather than just sticking to the book and only using an axe or sword.


  Brock The Rock on 09/24/07 02:00

although i feel running a melee weapon would be more useful in a build with no other intention but damage on a primary war (why run something when there is a clearly better option) i still gave you advice in the fact that barbed spear should be replaced if your so intent on running a spear warrior. so instead of giving bullcrap reasons to not take my advice atleast give a convincing argument as to why a spear warrior with barbed is so much better than one with out or a more traditional and imo effective war.

  johny bravo on 09/24/07 07:54

first nice idea, getting away from the warriors primary weapons but not really losing naything b/c the primary attribute still accomplishes the same thing.

as for the comments above by brock.
brock try to understand what jaffar is saying is that he posted a spear build. saying an axe or sword build is better isn't all that helpful. the whole idea of posting a guide is so that people can look at it and try it and possibly make it better. saying to switch to an axe or a sword is kind of like someone posting an earth ele and then someone else stating that a fire ele would be better. fact is the build is for a spear.

as for traditional if we all played traditiona build they would still be doing iway in the halls. creativity makes the game more fun.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 09:10

ty johny :d

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 09:15

no caps ftl xd i swear they fixed that? oh well xd



  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 15:04

ok completely changed it now, so ye heres the new and improved version :)



added "go for the eyes" for a much higher chance of scoring a deep wound, added wearying spear over barbed for extra damage, replaced defy pain and healing signet for "your all alone" and lions comfort and replaced shield bash for tiger stance for a massive increase in dps.

thanks for all who contributed :)

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 15:06

Hmm pic of the skills wont work, ill try again

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If that doesnt work heres a link to picture with the skills:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z154/bo...07/Newbuild.jpg





  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/24/07 15:08

hmm first it doesnt work then it works twice xd

  mason717 on 09/24/07 16:32

i love your shield i'm saving up for 1 atm.

  Brock The Rock on 09/25/07 02:38

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first nice idea, getting away from the warriors primary weapons but not really losing naything b/c the primary attribute still accomplishes the same thing.

as for the comments above by brock.
brock try to understand what jaffar is saying is that he posted a spear build. saying an axe or sword build is better isn't all that helpful. the whole idea of posting a guide is so that people can look at it and try it and possibly make it better. saying to switch to an axe or a sword is kind of like someone posting an earth ele and then someone else stating that a fire ele would be better. fact is the build is for a spear.

as for traditional if we all played traditiona build they would still be doing iway in the halls. creativity makes the game more fun.


so your saying if someone posts a water nuking build and someone says "just use fire because it doesnt suck ass in pve" they are at fault. if something is for the exact same purpose as another build but one acomplishes it better. whats the purpose of an evicerate warrior? hitting shit and doing direct damage with a powerful deep wound. whats the purpose of this? hitting shit and doing damage but it does it worse.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/25/07 07:56

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so your saying if someone posts a water nuking build and someone says "just use fire because it doesnt suck ass in pve" they are at fault. if something is for the exact same purpose as another build but one acomplishes it better. whats the purpose of an evicerate warrior? hitting shit and doing direct damage with a powerful deep wound. whats the purpose of this? hitting shit and doing damage but it does it worse.


to be honest mate it doesnt do it any worse, if you read it properly you would see the reason it works so well is because for 2 adrenelin you get a bonus of +34 dmg, compared to an axe wich takes 8 adrenelin for the same bonus, this is why it works, the low adren means you can spam attack skills constantly.

And the main reason your posts are so out of order is because the way you say
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why not just use a sword or axe youll have better dps with one of those.
instead of being polite and saying something like "nice build but i prefer axe and swords."

so why not listen to what other ppl are saying and realise im just trying to make a different build thats fun to use, wich does work, next time just make your comments slightly more polite.




  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/25/07 07:57

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i love your shield i'm saving up for 1 atm.


ty :) i had to part with my beloved gloomy to get it lol

  Brock The Rock on 09/25/07 16:49

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instead of being polite and saying something like "nice build but i prefer axe and swords."


but i dont think its a nice build and i dont just prefer a sword or axe they are better in this situation

  Charlotte The Harlot on 09/25/07 16:53

Low dps unreliable deep wound poor choice of elite not a good build imo

  mr47 on 09/25/07 18:52

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instead of being polite and saying something like "nice build but i prefer axe and swords." 



but i dont think its a nice build and i dont just prefer a sword or axe they are better in this situation


brock, if you dont think its a nice build, and you want to change it completely, then go make your own frikin guide and let us smash it to bits.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 00:40

ty mr47 :)

and charlotte the harlot

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low dps unreliable deep wound poor choice of elite not a good build imo


wtf can u not read what i sed at the end of the guide, dont just post stupid comments like that without a suggstion, tbh your worse than brock at least he actualy had a suggestion.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 00:49


this place has become so serious lately before it was just a fun place to post guides and tips where even if people didnt like it theyd just discuss it rather than writing it off completely.

amp has changed :/

  eiirish on 09/26/07 00:55

everyone can't like everything, i think it's nice that people have diffrent oppinions ^^.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 00:57

yes i agree but not when they make it so harsh, suggestions are great and ty to all who made them but its wen its like omg that sucks its just annoying.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 00:59

im sorry to everyone whos made nice comments but to the other not so nice ones im just trying to find something thats fun to play with and isnt just a bog standard sword or axe build, why can no one understand this i dont even do it for credit i just want to share something that i found interesting and thought other people would find fun, everyone id given it to ingame enjoyed using it and some said why not post it on amp, so why not just stop ripping the crap out of it and take it for its fun side.

  Corruplt Intrept on 09/26/07 02:03

amp has changed due to what has joined it. the old people, meh, we're still the same =p

  zero4eva on 09/26/07 03:39

imo, i like it =d
finally a warrior that -holds back- o.o
to throw spears, becuz i never tried spears
and i would love to see my warrior throw one at
and enemy xd

but hey nice job.

and everyone calm down!
everyone has different opinions!
if you like swords and axe better
use it, never said you didnt have to use
this build =p... i love swords better 2
but yet!... this is a build to try out =d
can't wait >.<


  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 04:29

zero4eva ty thats cheered me up :)

  poisened guy on 09/26/07 06:20
 
hey,very nice build
i fought him in ab^^
he was owning 3melee guys...very nice build


  Deathaxe on 09/26/07 10:27

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ok completely changed it now, so ye heres the new and improved version :) 

 

added "go for the eyes" for a much higher chance of scoring a deep wound, added wearying spear over barbed for extra damage, replaced defy pain and healing signet for "your all alone" and lions comfort and replaced shield bash for tiger stance for a massive increase in dps. 

thanks for all who contributed :)


First, No problem. Jaffaer, You may want to choose Flail over Tiger Stance. You don't need to worry about the movement issue, because you have a ranged weapon. I am not sure about Wearying Spear. You may want to throw Blazing Spear in for damage and burning bonus. The weakness could kill you if you don't watch out with it.

  jaffar_al_kahyet on 09/26/07 12:20

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hey,very nice build 
i fought him in ab^^ 
he was owning 3melee guys...very nice build


that was such a fun battle, shame u luxon and against me xd :)

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first, no problem. jaffaer, you may want to choose flail over tiger stance. you don't need to worry about the movement issue, because you have a ranged weapon. i am not sure about wearying spear. you may want to throw blazing spear in for damage and burning bonus. the weakness could kill you if you don't watch out with it.


ill test that out now :) ty again :d this is the type of comments i like constrictive rather thanut i dont like it full stop :)

  poisened guy on 09/27/07 12:34
 
lol yes jaffar, i hope i fight u again sometime^^
such a cool battle

and yes i guess flail would be better instead of tiger stance bc u wont be moving
and didnt said this yet nice guide,and don't listen to ppl like brock bc this works veryvery well

  The Soldat on 09/27/07 14:14